Removed software "Network Tools"

[StephanStS]

Removed iftop, IPTraf, Iperf, MTR-Tiny, nLoad, tcpdump from dietpi-software

• Very rare usage.
• Software is removed, otherwise documentation would be needed.
• See also Docs missing: MTR-tiny, nload, iftop, IPTraf, Iperf, tcpdump, Avahi-Daemon DietPi-Docs#649

Removed Software category "Network Tools"

Software Avahi Daemon moved to category "Advanced Networking"

Remark: Uninstall procedure from Iperf was missing (G_AGP iperf) in dietpi-software.

ToDo:

• DietPi software list has to be updated (https://github.com/MichaIng/DietPi/wiki/DietPi-Software-list, IDs 10..15)
• Avahi Daemon needs to be described (see Docs missing: MTR-tiny, nload, iftop, IPTraf, Iperf, tcpdump, Avahi-Daemon DietPi-Docs#649 (comment))

[MichaIng]

I would like to do the same with text editors and file managers. Or shall we split it into dedicated PRs?

[StephanStS]

I would like to do the same with text editors and file managers. Or shall we split it into dedicated PRs?

I would propose dedicated PRs to do it step by step.

[StephanStS]

I would like to do the same with text editors and file managers. Or shall we split it into dedicated PRs?

Survey statistics say (about 130 000 systems running) these counts of installations:

Text editors:

• Emacs: 155
• Jed: 97
• Vim: 1254 (-> relevant)
• Vim-Tiny: 322
• Neovim: 397

File managers:

• mc: 1628 (-> relevant)
• ViFM: 81

In my opinion, we should not kick out Vim and mc. If we would kick out the remaining packages, the grouping "Text Editors" and "File Managers" would both consist of only one single package. What to do?

[MichaIng]

And iftop has 763 reported installs. They are all relevant, but the point is that all dietpi-software does is installing (and removing) a single APT package, where it is just overkill to run that whole script for. It is important for users to know that DietPi is a regular Debian, where they can use APT to install any package. Having an install option in dietpi-software gives the impression it would do something more, or be the "correct" way to do it on DietPi, which is simply wrong on all those cases.

[StephanStS]

In my point of view, the user comfort by installing mc and Vim via well known dietpi-software is superior over the logic of "not installing simple apt install <...> packages".
(i.e. UX > "dietpi-software straightness")

[MichaIng]

The question is where you want to draw the line: There are over 60k APT packages in Debian repo, many would deserve it like Midnight Commander or more, to be on the list, if you go by that. Same with a lot of Docker containers, which we explicitly chose to not offer via dietpi-software, for the very same reason. The only argument which keeps MC and Vim inside now, compared to them, is that they were inside before. But I prefer consistency over keeping things inconsistent, only because it already was like that.

Furthermore, this is all CLI/TUI tools, so people who use them, do use the console already, where using apt should be really no hurdle.

What we could do instead is adding some AUTO_INSTALL_APT_PACKAGES dietpi.txt setting to keep a way having those and any other APT packages installed automatically. This I wantesd since a while anyway 🙂.

But let's better discuss in #7354.

[StephanStS]

In my point of view, the user comfort by installing mc and Vim via well known dietpi-software is superior over the logic of "not installing simple apt install <...> packages".
(i.e. UX > "dietpi-software straightness")