2024 09 25 jk prs in uub q1524o #1005
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new/PRS14574GabraLeul.xml
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| <creation/> | ||
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| <p>Gabra Lǝʿul Tǝrfe attended the boyschool of the Swedish Mission in the 1890s, spent a year in Italy, |
new/PRS14574GabraLeul.xml
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| <p>Gabra Lǝʿul Tǝrfe attended the boyschool of the Swedish Mission in the 1890s, spent a year in Italy, | ||
| and later returned as an evangelist in <date from="1901" to="1902">1901–1902</date> and |
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missionary? here and elsewhere
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At least in the Protestant contexts I know, I think "missionary" and "evangelist" are not exactly synonyms. Maybe I add "Protestant" to make it clear that he's not one of the Four.
| <persName xml:lang="gez" type="normalized" corresp="#n1">Gabra Lǝʿul Tǝrfe</persName> | ||
| <floruit notBefore="1870" notAfter="1950">19th-20th century</floruit> | ||
| <faith type="Protestantism"/> | ||
| <occupation type="ecclesiastic"/> |
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I would suggest to delete the empty elements for a cleaner record
new/PRS14575KidanaMaryam.xml
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| <persName xml:lang="gez" xml:id="n1">ኪዳነ፡ ማርያም፡</persName> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" type="normalized" corresp="#n1">Kidāna Māryām</persName> | ||
| <t:faith xmlns:t="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" type="EOTC Protestantism"/> |
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superfluous t: etc has to be deleted :(
new/PRS14574GabraLeul.xml
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| <creation/> | ||
| <abstract> | ||
| <p>Gabra Lǝʿul Tǝrfe attended the boyschool of the Swedish Mission in the 1890s, spent a year in Italy, |
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Until this issue is resolved, I don't think we should continue to use abstract for person records BetaMasaheft/Documentation#2732
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The schema does not allow <bibl> elements in <floruit>, it seems, so the usual solution does not work here. If we are going to use <floruit> for bibliographies, it would be good if it allowed <bibl>
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <body> | ||
| <listPerson> | ||
| <person sameAs="Q115903389" sex="1"> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" xml:id="n1">Anders Svensson</persName> |
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sv, forename and last name could be split
new/PRS14574GabraLeul.xml
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| <date from="1910" to="1924">1910–1924</date>. The major part of the contents of the | ||
| manuscript <ref type="mss" corresp="UppQ1524o"/> is said to derive from a text collection | ||
| called "Gabra Lǝʿul's collection | ||
| of <foreign xml:lang="gez">qəne</foreign>". It is possible that he is the author of some or all |
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"he is either the author or the collector"
I remember, that we discussed the authorship or not-authorship in a previous pull request.
new/PRS14574GabraLeul.xml
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| <persName xml:lang="gez" xml:id="n1">ገብረ፡ ልዑል፡ ትርፌ፡</persName> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" type="normalized" corresp="#n1">Gabra Lǝʿul Tǝrfe</persName> | ||
| <floruit notBefore="1870" notAfter="1950">19th-20th century</floruit> |
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If the floruit is known more precisely, it is useful to express it also verbally: Either: "1870-1950" or "End of the 19th century and first half of the 20th century"
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Delete line 79 and update line 84. One floruit is enough
new/PRS14575KidanaMaryam.xml
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| <persName xml:lang="gez" type="normalized" corresp="#n1">Kidāna Māryām</persName> | ||
| <t:faith xmlns:t="http://www.tei-c.org/ns/1.0" type="EOTC Protestantism"/> | ||
| <occupation type="ecclesiastic"/> | ||
| <floruit notBefore="1850" notAfter="1950">1850-1950</floruit> |
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If this is an estimation, I think it is more useful to print: "Second half of 19th and first half of 20th century".
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <p>Anders Svensson, born in Nävlinge socken in <date when="1849">1849</date>, was ordained a | ||
| priest in Lund in <date when="1874">1874</date>, and became a missionary for | ||
| SEM in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside | ||
| Imkullo. From 1885 to 1897, he was the head of the school, which from 1890 was located in Zazega. |
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Can you create LOC IDs (if needed) and mark up Imkullo and Zazega?
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The IDs are there and should be placed in residence
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <abstract> | ||
| <p>Anders Svensson, born in Nävlinge socken in <date when="1849">1849</date>, was ordained a | ||
| priest in Lund in <date when="1874">1874</date>, and became a missionary for | ||
| SEM in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside |
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Write acronym SEM in full in the first place.
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| <body> | ||
| <listPerson> | ||
| <person sameAs="Q115903389" sex="1"> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" xml:id="n1">Anders Svensson</persName> |
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no gez,
<forename></forename><surname></surname>
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <listPerson> | ||
| <person sameAs="Q115903389" sex="1"> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" xml:id="n1">Anders Svensson</persName> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" type="normalized" corresp="#n1"/> |
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no gez normalized. Delete line 61.
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| <faith type="Protestantism"/> | ||
| <occupation type="ecclesiastic"/> | ||
| <nationality type="Sweden"/> | ||
| <birth when="1894-04-07">1849</birth> |
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Express month and day of birth and death also verbally.
new/PRS14579WaldaGabreel.xml
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| </availability> | ||
| </publicationStmt> | ||
| <sourceDesc> | ||
| <p><roleName type="title">Daǧǧāčč</roleName>Walda Gabrəʾel is the author of a <foreign xml:lang="gez">qəne</foreign> poem attested in |
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Space between <roleName type="title">Daǧǧāčč</roleName> and Walda Gabrəʾel
new/PRS14579WaldaGabreel.xml
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| <persName xml:lang="gez" xml:id="n1">ወልደ፡ ገብርኤል፡</persName> | ||
| <persName xml:lang="gez" type="normalized" corresp="#n1">Walda Gabrəʾel</persName> | ||
| <occupation type="literary"/> | ||
| <floruit notBefore="1870" notAfter="1950">1870-1950</floruit> |
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Either like this or more inprecise: "Probably 1870-1950" or "End of 19th and first half of 20th century"
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| As the chairman of the missionary conference (Swed. <foreign xml:lang="sv">missionskonferens</foreign>) | ||
| from 1886 to 1913, he travelled through the entire area where the SEM was active, ordaining priests and | ||
| consecrating churches and graveyards. | ||
| He is buried in Zazega. According to <bibl><ptr target="bm:Kahassai2023"/></bibl>, |
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missing in bibliography; the bibliography of a record, just like of an article in a journal, should list all titles referred to.
if you have a title in the bibliography you do not need bibl elements, you can use a ref to point to the xml:id of the bibliographic record
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I suggest removing the abstract and moving the information under person as per TEI guidelines
<listPerson>
<person sameAs="Q115903389" sex="1">
<persName xml:lang="sv" xml:id="n1"><forename>Anders</forename> <surname>Svensson</surname></persName>
<persName xml:lang="ti" xml:id="n2" cert="unknown"><roleName type="office">ቀሺ</roleName> ሜንሶን
<note>The name is attested in <ref type="mss" corresp="UppQ1524o"><locus target="#5r"/></ref>; identified with Svensson by <ref target="#kahsai">Girmai Kahassai 2023</ref></note></persName>
<persName xml:lang="ti" corresp="#n2" type="normalized"><roleName type="office">Qašši</roleName> Menson</persName>
<faith type="Protestantism"/>
<occupation type="ecclesiastic"/>
<nationality type="Sweden"/>
<birth when="1894-04-07">7 April 1849, Nävlinge socken</birth>
<floruit>He was ordained a
priest in Lund in <date when="1874">1874</date>, and became a missionary for
Swedish Evangelical Mission in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside
<placeName ref="LOC2852Emkull"></placeName>. From 1885 to 1897, he was the head of the school, which from 1890 was located in <placeName ref="LOC5393Saazza"></placeName>.
As the chairman of the missionary conference (Swed. <foreign xml:lang="sv">missionskonferens</foreign>)
from 1886 to 1913, he travelled through the entire area where the SEM was active, ordaining priests and
consecrating churches and graveyards.
He is buried in <placeName ref="LOC5393Saazza"></placeName>.</floruit>
<death when="1928-06-04">4 June 1928, <placeName ref="LOC5393Saazza"></placeName></death>
</person>
<listRelation>
<relation name="lawd:hasAttestation" active="PRS14576AndersSvensson" passive="UppQ1524o"/>
<relation name="snap:ProfessionalRelationship" active="PRS14576AndersSvensson" passive="PRS14574GabraLeul"></relation>
</listRelation>
</listPerson>
<listBibl type="secondary">
<bibl>
<ptr target="bm:Lundstroem2011Kenisha"/>
<citedRange unit="page">481</citedRange>
</bibl>
<bibl>
<ptr target="bm:Julen1954Svensson"/>
</bibl>
<bibl xml:id="kahsai"><ptr target="bm:Kahassai2023"/></bibl>
</listBibl>
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Many thanks for this informative suggestion! Very useful!
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <p>Anders Svensson, born in Nävlinge socken in <date when="1849">1849</date>, was ordained a | ||
| priest in Lund in <date when="1874">1874</date>, and became a missionary for | ||
| Swedish Evangelical Mission in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside | ||
| Imkullo. From 1885 to 1897, he was the head of the school, which from 1890 was located in Zazega. |
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <p>Anders Svensson, born in Nävlinge socken in <date when="1849">1849</date>, was ordained a | ||
| priest in Lund in <date when="1874">1874</date>, and became a missionary for | ||
| Swedish Evangelical Mission in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside | ||
| Imkullo. From 1885 to 1897, he was the head of the school, which from 1890 was located in Zazega. |
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Probably yes, thank you!
new/PRS14576AndersSvensson.xml
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| <p>Anders Svensson, born in Nävlinge socken in <date when="1849">1849</date>, was ordained a | ||
| priest in Lund in <date when="1874">1874</date>, and became a missionary for | ||
| SEM in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside | ||
| Imkullo. From 1885 to 1897, he was the head of the school, which from 1890 was located in Zazega. |
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The IDs are there and should be placed in residence
| manuscript <ref type="mss" corresp="UppQ1524o"/> is said to derive from a text collection | ||
| called "Gabra Lǝʿul's collection | ||
| of <foreign xml:lang="gez">qəne</foreign>". Presumably, he is either the author or the collector of (some or all | ||
| of) these <foreign xml:lang="gez">qəne</foreign>s.</floruit> |
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The information on the possible authorship of qene poems is probably better to be encoded in
<occupation type="literary"><occupation>
| Evangelicals and was active as an evangelist in | ||
| <placeName ref="LOC4012Karnas"/> from <date when="1895"/> to <date when="1910"/>. | ||
| From <date when="1911"/> to <date when="1912"/>, he was active in <placeName ref="LOC6569Tegray"/>. | ||
| He is possibly the author of an eulogistic composition attested in <ref type="mss" corresp="UppQ1524o"/>.</floruit> |
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Probably better in <occupation type="literary"><occupation>.
| <floruit notBefore="1850" notAfter="1950">Second half of 19th and first half of 20th century.</floruit> | ||
| <floruit notBefore="1850" notAfter="1950">Second half of 19th and first half of 20th century. | ||
| According to <ref target="#Lundstroem2011Kenisha"/>, Kidāna Māryām was originally an | ||
| Orthodox <foreign xml:lang="gez">dabtarā</foreign>. As of <date when="1895"/>, he supported the |
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Probably better in <occupation type="ecclesiastic"><occupation>
| Orthodox <foreign xml:lang="gez">dabtarā</foreign>. As of <date when="1895"/>, he supported the | ||
| Evangelicals and was active as an evangelist in | ||
| <placeName ref="LOC4012Karnas"/> from <date when="1895"/> to <date when="1910"/>. | ||
| From <date when="1911"/> to <date when="1912"/>, he was active in <placeName ref="LOC6569Tegray"/>. |
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Better in <residence></residence>
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It's not optimal to have to divide these things up into different categories…
was active as an evangelist in <placeName ref="LOC4012Karnas"/> could be both occupation and residence.
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As you prefer. It might be better for those, who look up things according to occupation or residence etc.
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| Swedish Evangelical Mission in Eritrea in <date when="1877">1877</date>. He was a teacher at the school outside | ||
| <ref type="place" corresp="LOC2852Emkull">Imkullo</ref>. From 1885 to 1897, he was the head of the school, | ||
| which from 1890 was located in <ref type="place" corresp="LOC5393Saazza">Zazega</ref>. | ||
| As the chairman of the missionary conference (Swed. <foreign xml:lang="sv">missionskonferens</foreign>) |
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I do not think you need "Swed." as you have the xml:lang
| from 1886 to 1913, he travelled through the entire area where the SEM was active, ordaining priests and | ||
| consecrating churches and graveyards. | ||
| He is buried in Zazega. According to <ref target="#Kahassai2023"></ref>, | ||
| he was locally known as <foreign xml:lang="ti"><roleName type="office">ቀሺ</roleName> ሜንሶን</foreign> |
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you decided again putting this as n2? OK
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I missed that you had suggested it, but I added it now. Thank you!
Persons connected to the qene collection of Kolmodin (http://www.alvin-portal.org/alvin/view.jsf?pid=alvin-record%3A280997&dswid=6173). If anyone would like to, I would appreciate a second pair of eyes at the "relations" between the persons and work files, if they seem reasonable.