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Hello there. 
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Hi, Normally you should be able to set this as a default by turning on the relevant stylistic set (in your screenshot above this would be under OpenType > Stylistic Sets > [Set 11]). Set 11 appears to be the one that controls the "a" variant, as tested here https://fontdrop.info/, where if you turn on the switch "cv11" you'll see the "a" variant in the preview. I say that normally you should be able to do this, since for some reason it doesn't actually work in InDesign right now. If you look under the Stylistic Sets menu, you'll see four named sets ("Open digits", "Disambiguation", "Round quotes commas", and "Disambiguation (no slashed zero)"), and then a series of unnamed ones in the form of "[Set XYZ]". The named one do work, but the unnamed ones (or at least set 11) do not. Maybe it's as simple as InDesign needing them to be named to function properly, or maybe it's something else. Given that there are four that are already named, maybe the additional sets have just not been fully implemented yet... In any case, I think you have a few options:
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Ah nice one. |
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Hi again, You may have seen my comment here: #605, in the end this doesn't look like an issue with Inter, but rather with InDesign. It doesn't look like they've implemented access to Character Variants in the UI the way they have for Stylistic Sets, which is a shame. I just wanted to add, besides what I suggested earlier, that you may find this project useful: https://github.com/samiartur/Character-Variant-Java-Script-for-Indesign. Basically they're two scripts which let you more easily apply a character variant to a selection, one with a specific "cvXX" hard-coded into it, and one with a dialog prompt where you can enter the two-digit character variant code (for example "11" in your case). I tested the one with the prompt and it works as expected. Still inconvenient since it only works on selections and not the whole document, but probably better than changing the glyphs one by one. I'm sure there's a way to adapt the script to work on the whole document, but I don't know enough to suggest how. Hope that helps! |
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But how is the alternate 'a' different from the 'r' style set? 
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yeah - creating a custom font for the client would be a solution for sure but having this font easily accessible for all end users directly through Google fonts is one of the reasons for going with it to begin with. |
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Also, thanks for the response. |
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The alternate "a" isn't really a different case than the "r", but my impression is that having a stylistic set just for the curved "r" was also kind of a misuse of the feature, which is why it's no longer present in version 4 of Inter (currently in beta). That stylistic set exists in version 3 which is what you're seeing, but is no longer there in the upcoming version. I'm just guessing here, since I'm not the one working on Inter, but I believe that a single character variant doesn't warrant a whole stylistic set, which is why it's gone now. Again though, that's just my guess. |
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oh damn. I thought if the alternate 'r' style set existing maybe we could get the alternate 'a' style set. |
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It is odd that InDesign does not properly support Character Variants (cvNN). InDesign does support Access All Alternates (aalt) - which should include all the Character Variants. |
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Yeah, it is odd that InDesign hasn't implemented support for Character Variants the way they have for Stylistic Sets, not sure if it'll eventually show up or if it's not on their radar. I can't remember exactly where you can file issues or feature requests with them (though I've seen it somewhere before), but I may look into it at some point (wouldn't surprise me if others have already requested this). The alternates are indeed there as a little context menu when you select a character, but for the default "a" it doesn't display the one-storey "a" that @dpor is looking for. Even if it did, it would have to be selected manually for every single one, which is obviously not ideal. I still think the best bet for anyone looking to use character variants as defaults in InDesign is to freeze them and export new fonts. Not ideal, but the best option I can think of. |
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You can access the alternate 'a' by selecting Stylistic Alternates within Adobe Illustrator which is good.
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Hi,
Normally you should be able to set this as a default by turning on the relevant stylistic set (in your screenshot above this would be under OpenType > Stylistic Sets > [Set 11]). Set 11 appears to be the one that controls the "a" variant, as tested here https://fontdrop.info/, where if you turn on the switch "cv11" you'll see the "a" variant in the preview.
I say that normally you should be able to do this, since for some reason it doesn't actually work in InDesign right now. If you look under the Stylistic Sets menu, you'll see four named sets ("Open digits", "Disambiguation", "Round quotes commas", and "Disambiguation (no slashed zero)"), and then a series of unnamed ones in the for…