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WFS province East-Flanders, layer 'Invasieve_uitheemse_soorten' will not be updated anymore #106

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filipmahieu opened this issue Apr 18, 2024 · 6 comments

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@filipmahieu
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We don't update the data the layer 'Invasieve_uitheemse_soorten' in https://geodiensten.oost-vlaanderen.be/arcgis/services/MIL/Waarnemingen_Public/MapServer/WFSServer?request=GetCapabilities&service=WFS anymore.
IAS'es are now put directly in waarnemingen.be .
We will remove this layer from the WFS, but want the data still to be available in GBIF / Riparias. Can we hence stop without concern the layer, while the data will still be retrieved in GBIF / Riparias?

We still add data to the layer 'Vissen_en_crustacea'. Hopefully before summer we will publish the data in another WFS, as mentioned in #98 coming from another datasystem (gisib), but having (in other tables) the same effective content. In fact, in my opinion, the old data must then not be uploaded anymore, the new webservice-layer will replace it all.

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Hi @filipmahieu 👋 Thanks for letting us know about this. I will transfer this issue to https://github.com/riparias/pov-ias-plants-occurrences as I think it concerns that specific dataset. I will give you an answer after the transfer.

@damianooldoni damianooldoni transferred this issue from riparias/gbif-alert Apr 18, 2024
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We don't update the data the layer 'Invasieve_uitheemse_soorten' in https://geodiensten.oost-vlaanderen.be/arcgis/services/MIL/Waarnemingen_Public/MapServer/WFSServer?request=GetCapabilities&service=WFS anymore.

Ok, thanks. I noticed indeed something strange as my automatic weekly fetch GitHub action was not harvesting any data.

IAS'es are now put directly in waarnemingen.be .
We will remove this layer from the WFS, but want the data still to be available in GBIF / Riparias. Can we hence stop without concern the layer, while the data will still be retrieved in GBIF / Riparias?

Yes, of course. The GBIF dataset we published and weekly updated will be still online and so those data will be available on GBIF "forever" 😄 We will just disable the weekly auto publication on our side.

We still add data to the layer 'Vissen_en_crustacea'. Hopefully before summer we will publish the data in another WFS, as mentioned in #98 coming from another datasystem (gisib), but having (in other tables) the same effective content. In fact, in my opinion, the old data must then not be uploaded anymore, the new webservice-layer will replace it all.

Great, we will then continue to update that dataset as usual. The new datasystem with the new WFS discussed in #98 will be only relevant for the fishes and crayfishes layer then? This is the only point it's not totally clear to me. Thanks. We will have to take care that the value ObservationIdentifier used as unique identifier will not change for the old observations when you pass to the new system. Otherwise GBIF (and our early alert system) will consider them as new observations.

@filipmahieu
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We still add data to the layer 'Vissen_en_crustacea'. Hopefully before summer we will publish the data in another WFS, as mentioned in #98 coming from another datasystem (gisib), but having (in other tables) the same effective content. In fact, in my opinion, the old data must then not be uploaded anymore, the new webservice-layer will replace it all.

Great, we will then continue to update that dataset as usual. The new datasystem with the new WFS discussed in #98 will be only relevant for the fishes and crayfishes layer then? This is the only point it's not totally clear to me. Thanks. We will have to take care that the value ObservationIdentifier used as unique identifier will not change for the old observations when you pass to the new system. Otherwise GBIF (and our early alert system) will consider them as new observations.

There will be more kinds of plants and animals (e.g. waterplants, terrestric plants, animals captured by wildlife cameras). ObservationIdentifier will change however. I could give once a mapping from 'old to new identifier' howerver.

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Such a mapping from 'old to new identifier' would be great, thanks.

It's great to hear that Province East Flanders will sensibly increase the number of published species on GBIF.

  • So, there will be still two layers in the new WFS?
  • The plants will be available with transects lines available via WFS, right? But if Province East Flanders is going to publish the same plants data on waarnemingen.be don't we create duplicates on GBIF then? Probably I am missing something, sorry 🤔

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I don't know yet how many layers there will be. We'll have to figure out.
Plants from verges will also come with x and y-coördinates, and wkt-footprint as discussed in appendix.
Re_ Export naar GBIF - lijnen_.pdf
The things we publish on waarnemingen.be won't be noted in our gisib / WFS. So there won't be doubles.
You noted 'Ok, thanks. I noticed indeed something strange as my automatic weekly fetch GitHub action was not harvesting any data.' There was an issue with our WFS. Now he publishes again data. It's not normal if there's no data, please give me sign then.

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Thansk @filipmahieu! Everything clear now! 👍

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