Maclisp version of Eliza

[larsbrinkhoff]

Hello,

I have a version of ELIZA ported to Maclisp, dated 1977-09-05. Unfortunately, it's just a compiled binary file. Is this of any interest to you?

[jeffshrager]

Hmmm. Interesting. Is the any way to either run it, or extract the embedded code?

[larsbrinkhoff]

The binary file is a compiled FASL, fast load file, so it's not easy to extract any code other than PDP-10 instructions. It might be possible, but a lot of work, to reconstruct Lisp code that compiles to approximately the same FASL code.

Yes, we can run it in Maclisp running on a PDP-10 emulator. I have an emulator online. Telnet to its.pdp10.se, port 10003. Type Control-Z to log in. Then :lisp games; eliza (init) to start Maclisp and load ELIZA. It should look something like this:

telnet its.pdp10.se 10003
Trying 88.99.191.74...
Connected to pdp10.se.
Escape character is '^]'.


Connected to the KA-10 simulator MTY device, line 4

(type Control-Z here)

TT ITS.1648. DDT.1546.
TTY 25
2. Lusers, Fair Share = 0%
THIS IS TT ITS, A HIGHTY VOLATILE SYSTEM FOR TESTING

For brief information, type ?
For a list of colon commands, type :? and press Enter.
For the full info system, type :INFO and Enter.

The management apologizes for the use of the slow TK10 terminal
multiplexer.  We'll upgrade to the much faster Datapoint kludge once
it becomes available.
:lisp games; eliza (init)
(Please Log In)
QUIT
SPEAK UP!

[larsbrinkhoff]

I may be able to demo this, and a few other ITS programs, at the Seattle VCF in March.

[jeffshrager]

OMG, you have an actual ITS system running?!

[larsbrinkhoff]

Yes. ITS was actually first revived on an emulator in 1992 (two years after its demise) by former ITS hacker now Google engineer Ken Harrenstien. Another emulator by DEC retiree Bob Supnik was used to bring ITS online on the Internet in 2001. My contribution is to collect everything together in a single git repository with automated build scripts: http://github.com/PDP-10/its

Sorry to blather, but it's my favourite subject!

[larsbrinkhoff]

It's possible to read out some data with the FASLREAD package. See PDP-10/its#1081 (comment)

CC @eswenson1

[larsbrinkhoff]

There is also a file called DOCTOR JONL2 which seems promising. Note the dating on the script - 25 NOV 69.

https://github.com/PDP-10/its/blob/master/src/libdoc/doctor.jonl2#L300

[jeffshrager]

Hmmm. I wonder if I should try to give a talk at VCF on the ElizaGen project. Do you think that's the sort of thing folks might be interested in?

[dmberry]

Hi People subscribed to this code might be interested in a book that has recently been published called: Hello, I’m ELIZA. Full reference below: Baranovskaa, Marianna/Höltgen, Stefan (Hgg.): Hello, I’m Eliza. 50 Jahre Gespräche mit Computern. (Reihe: Computerarchäologie, Band 5). Bochum: Projektverlag 2018. The contents page is copied below. Best Davids —— Vorwort der Reihenherausgeber ...................................................... 7 0 Vorwort: TELL ME YOUR PROBLEM (Baranovska, Höltgen) ........... 9 I ELIZAs Geschichte(n) ............................................................. 21 1 ELIZA – Ein Computerprogramm zur Untersuchung der Kommunikation zwischen Mensch und Maschine mithilfe natürlicher Sprache (Weizenbaum, van Treeck) ................... 23 2 Weizenbaum, Eliza and the End of Human Reason (Berry) ............... 53 II ELIZAs Sprachen ................................................................... 71 3 SLIP – Eine Sprache zwischen den Stühlen (Kantel) ....................... 73 4 ELIZA in BASIC (Shrager) ....................................................... 89 5 Computer/sprachen: ELIZA und BASIC – Urszenen des Homecomputings (und) künstlicher Intelligenz (Höltgen) ............... 97 III ELIZAs Folgen ..................................................................... 123 6 Die Maschine spricht Spannung (Baranovska) .............................. 125 7 From ELIZA to modern Chatbots and Dialog Systems – The Historical Development of Conversational So􏰀ware: Classification, Technology and Application Domains (Le, Pinkwart, Masche) ......................... 143 8 Natürliche und künstliche Intelligenz – 50 Jahre nach ELIZA (Mainzer) ................................................. 161 9 Sprachspiele|Stimmsynthesen – Zur nachrichtentechnischen Genese des auditiven Pendants von ELIZA (Borbach) ............................... 177 10 Die Tücke im System – »Starke« KI im Science-Fiction-Film (Baum) ................................ 199 11 Sprechen/Versprechen – Sprachausgabe in Computerspielen der frühen 1980er-Jahre (Keichel) .............................................. 211 12 The Human is the Problem – Scenes of Technology and Reason in Media Performance (Leitner, Jucan, Pohle, Kipka) ...................... 225 Anhang .................................................................................. 241 Über die Autoren ................................................................. 243 Register .............................................................................. 251 Internetquellen .................................................................... 257

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[larsbrinkhoff]

Yes, I think this is exactly the kind of thing people would be interested in!