diff --git a/src/modules/fluidd/start_chroot_script b/src/modules/fluidd/start_chroot_script
index eb179eb..2b33e95 100644
--- a/src/modules/fluidd/start_chroot_script
+++ b/src/modules/fluidd/start_chroot_script
@@ -31,10 +31,10 @@ su -c "unzip fluidd.zip -d /home/pi/fluidd" - pi
 rm /home/pi/fluidd.zip
 
 # link logfiles to klipper_logs
-ln -s /var/log/nginx/fluidd-access.log /home/pi/klipper_logs/
-ln -s /var/log/nginx/fluidd-error.log /home/pi/klipper_logs/
+ln -s /var/log/nginx/fluidd-access.log /var/log/klipper/
+ln -s /var/log/nginx/fluidd-error.log /var/log/klipper/
 
 # Run installation steps defined above
 
 # Unpack root at the end, so files are modified before
-unpack /filesystem/root /
\ No newline at end of file
+unpack /filesystem/root /
diff --git a/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/klipper b/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/klipper
index 68047d4..06f63e1 100644
--- a/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/klipper
+++ b/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/klipper
@@ -1,9 +1,8 @@
-  
-/home/pi/klipper_logs/klippy.log
+/var/log/klipper/klippy.log
 {
     rotate 7
     daily
-    maxsize 64M
+    maxsize 16M
     missingok
     notifempty
     compress
diff --git a/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/klipper.service b/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/klipper.service
index 95d6d00..4e422d7 100644
--- a/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/klipper.service
+++ b/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/klipper.service
@@ -11,6 +11,6 @@ WantedBy=multi-user.target
 Type=simple
 User=pi
 RemainAfterExit=yes
-ExecStart=/home/pi/klippy-env/bin/python /home/pi/klipper/klippy/klippy.py /home/pi/klipper_config/printer.cfg -l /home/pi/klipper_logs/klippy.log -a /tmp/klippy_uds
+ExecStart=/home/pi/klippy-env/bin/python /home/pi/klipper/klippy/klippy.py /home/pi/klipper_config/printer.cfg -l /var/log/klipper/klippy.log -a /tmp/klippy_uds
 Restart=always
-RestartSec=10
\ No newline at end of file
+RestartSec=10
diff --git a/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/tmpfiles.d/klipper.conf b/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/tmpfiles.d/klipper.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..fd4d111
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/modules/klipper/filesystem/root/etc/tmpfiles.d/klipper.conf
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+d /var/log/klipper 0755 pi pi - -
diff --git a/src/modules/klipper/start_chroot_script b/src/modules/klipper/start_chroot_script
index 0fb3f6a..78a1866 100644
--- a/src/modules/klipper/start_chroot_script
+++ b/src/modules/klipper/start_chroot_script
@@ -44,7 +44,15 @@ cd /home/pi
 gitclone KLIPPER_REPO klipper
 
 [ ! -d /home/pi/klipper_config ] && su -c "mkdir /home/pi/klipper_config" - pi
-[ ! -d /home/pi/klipper_logs ] && su -c "mkdir /home/pi/klipper_logs" - pi
+
+# mount rotate files in RAM
+# tmpfs /var/log tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0
+# tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0
+# tmpfs /tmp     tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0
+append1 /etc/fstab "/var/log" "tmpfs /var/log tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0"
+append1 /etc/fstab "/var/tmp" "tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0"
+append1 /etc/fstab "\s/tmp"   "tmpfs /tmp    tmpfs nodev,nosuid 0 0"
+
 
 # create python virtualenv and install klipper requirements
 su -c "virtualenv -p python2 ${KLIPPER_PYTHON_DIR}" - pi
diff --git a/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/webcamd b/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/webcamd
index bf135d2..0043b7e 100644
--- a/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/webcamd
+++ b/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/webcamd
@@ -1,9 +1,8 @@
-  
 /var/log/webcamd.log
 {
     rotate 4
     weekly
-    maxsize 64M
+    maxsize 16M
     missingok
     notifempty
     compress
diff --git a/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/tmpfiles.d/mjpq_streamer.conf b/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/tmpfiles.d/mjpq_streamer.conf
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..93a6d4c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/filesystem/root/etc/tmpfiles.d/mjpq_streamer.conf
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+L /var/log/klipper/webcamd.log - - - - /var/log/webcamd.log
diff --git a/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/start_chroot_script b/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/start_chroot_script
index eb12839..deeca79 100644
--- a/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/start_chroot_script
+++ b/src/modules/mjpgstreamer/start_chroot_script
@@ -82,9 +82,6 @@ fi
 apt-get clean
 apt-get autoremove -y
 
-# link logfiles to klipper_logs
-ln -s /var/log/webcamd.log /home/pi/klipper_logs/
-
 # Run installation steps defined above
 
 # Unpack root at the end, so files are modified before
diff --git a/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/home/pi/klipper_config/moonraker.conf b/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/home/pi/klipper_config/moonraker.conf
index d89910b..32d4689 100644
--- a/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/home/pi/klipper_config/moonraker.conf
+++ b/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/home/pi/klipper_config/moonraker.conf
@@ -5,7 +5,7 @@ enable_debug_logging: False
 config_path: ~/klipper_config
 temperature_store_size: 600
 gcode_store_size: 1000
-log_path: ~/klipper_logs
+log_path: /var/log/klipper
 
 [authorization]
 force_logins: True
@@ -37,4 +37,4 @@ enable_auto_refresh: True
 [update_manager client fluidd]
 type: web
 repo: fluidd-core/fluidd
-path: ~/fluidd
\ No newline at end of file
+path: ~/fluidd
diff --git a/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/moonraker b/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/moonraker
index d293155..fbcd5b9 100644
--- a/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/moonraker
+++ b/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/logrotate.d/moonraker
@@ -1,9 +1,8 @@
-  
-/home/pi/klipper_logs/moonraker.log
+/var/log/klipper/moonraker.log
 {
     rotate 7
     daily
-    maxsize 64M
+    maxsize 16M
     missingok
     notifempty
     compress
diff --git a/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/moonraker.service b/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/moonraker.service
index db5e5a0..35ea6c9 100644
--- a/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/moonraker.service
+++ b/src/modules/moonraker/filesystem/root/etc/systemd/system/moonraker.service
@@ -11,6 +11,6 @@ WantedBy=multi-user.target
 Type=simple
 User=pi
 RemainAfterExit=yes
-ExecStart=/home/pi/moonraker-env/bin/python /home/pi/moonraker/moonraker/moonraker.py -c /home/pi/klipper_config/moonraker.conf -l /home/pi/klipper_logs/moonraker.log
+ExecStart=/home/pi/moonraker-env/bin/python /home/pi/moonraker/moonraker/moonraker.py -c /home/pi/klipper_config/moonraker.conf -l /var/log/klipper/moonraker.log
 Restart=always
-RestartSec=10
\ No newline at end of file
+RestartSec=10