GSoC 2023: Contributor Proposal Review and Updates #918
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There is a bug with the ignore feature, essentially clicking ignore then hides a proposal from everyone, not just the person clicking ignore. We're going through to see if we can clean things up, and will be reaching out to GSoC for help if we need. My understanding is that all the proposals are still there, they just aren't visible to everyone. |
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An update here... We went through all proposals and removed them from the ignore list. All proposals should be visible again. We ask all mentors to not use the "ignore" feature. Thanks! |
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The GSoC administrators also shared this attached to their email above: |
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/cc @skonto @Kavinjsir @thschue @varshaprasad96 @fourierr @ilixiaocui @q82419 @yongtang @yurishkuro (remaining folks registered as mentors on GSoC platform for 2023) |
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Hello everyone, The deadline for GSoC ranked selections is April 27, 2023; however, we (the CNCF GSoC admin team) will need time to do those rankings, so we are asking mentors to provide their selections for ranking by April 19, 2023. This is to give us time to review and reach out to mentors in case of any conflicts. We aim to have these ranked and ready for Google by April 25, 2023. We are aware that this deadline falls in the middle of KubeCon EU, so given the GSoC timeline, we ask that you choose your proposals as soon as possible. Platform link for the proposals: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/cncf/programs/2023/proposals/details Please click the “Want to Mentor” button to indicate your interest in any particular proposal. When you are selecting proposals, keep these in mind: Proposals should
Bonus points for creativity/innovative solutions – let us know if a proposal is particularly interesting. Note, If there are multiple proposals for a project idea, the org admins will reach out to the projects (mentors) to see which they are most interested in working on. There can only be one mentee per project idea. |
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Hi @nate-double-u, thanks for all the details.
This is already my case. When I'll get to a decision, should I express it through the “Want to Mentor” button, or do the org admins prefer me to reach out to them privately? |
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Hello @jasondellaluce Yes, please express it through the “Want to Mentor”.
We wrote this together with @nate-double-u and the situation that we tried to describe was when there are multiple proposals with "Want to Mentor" pressed for the same project idea. Thanks for the feedback! |
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Hi @nate-double-u, this is already my case. Do I just need to click the "Want to Mentor" button on one of the proposals，and |
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hi @ilixiaocui
This would work fine. Thanks for reaching out and making sure! |
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Thanks @nate-double-u |
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Hello, What is considered the org admin for this group? One of the mentors of the Armada project didn’t see the email asking him to join CNCF GSOC so he’d like to get another invite. |
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Hi @kannon92 Thanks for reaching out. I assume you're asking the invite for Geoffrey Wilson, listed in https://github.com/cncf/mentoring/blob/main/summerofcode/2023.md#build-interfaces-around-postgres-for-armada. I don't see Geoffrey in GSoC system as registered. When I want to send a new invite to the email address (geoff AT gr-oss DOT com) that's listed in the page above, GSoC system says "Invite for this user to this organization already exists". We've had experienced some bugs in GSoC system this year. Maybe this is one of them. I will reach out to GSoC program managers at Google. In the mean time, I can send an invite to another email address of Geoffrey's if you provide me one. |
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Google program managers told me that they resent the invitation email now. Could you please check? |
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Thank you -- I think the issue is that email address is incorrect @aliok -- I am geoff AT gr-oss DOT io |
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Hi @suprjinx I sent you a new invite now. |
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Thanks @aliok! |
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Hi Everyone! Google has informed us that we've had 14 projects selected for this year's program! 🚀 I want to thank everyone for putting in such thoughtful proposals. For those with projects that weren't selected, I'd like to encourage you to submit them to the next terms of the CNCF LFX Mentorship program -- many of the GSoC project proposals can be copied almost one for one to a PR against an LFX term, especially if you've got strong submissions from contributors. LFX Mentoring terms:
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Just a clarification here. These dates are deadlines for adding project ideas as mentors. Deadline for mentee applications is later. (I was reached out by some mentors who got confused) |
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That's correct--deadlines listed here are for mentors to propose ideas. The mentee applications period is opened after. |
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Hello everyone,
The contributor proposal submission has now closed, and we're now moving into the proposal review phase.
Currently there is a bug in the system where Ignoring an individual proposal will ignore it for the entire org. GSoC is working on this, and we'll be reaching out to the team to make sure that all the mentors are able to see all the proposals that are intended for them.
I'm including the GSoC Program Administrators' email in this post to help explain the situation, and to provide information on next steps.
Cheers,
Nate.
From: [email protected]
Subject: GSoC 2023: Contributor Proposal Review and Updates
Sent: Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 9:35 PM PT
Hello,
The GSoC 2023 contributor proposal submission period has now closed. We had 5,704 contributors submit 7,723 proposals for GSoC 2023. These are some of the highest numbers we’ve had for GSoC. Thank you all for taking the time to work with prospective contributors during the application period (and before) to help them understand more about your org and the project ideas you were interested in having GSoC contributors work on this summer.
In this phase of GSoC (Proposal Review and Ranking), your org will look through all the contributor proposals you received and choose which ones your org wishes to select as GSoC 2023 contributor projects. You will also be determining which mentors will be assigned to each contributor project so your org admins can rank the proposals before April 27.
Updates
Reviewing Contributor Proposals: April 4 - 27
Mentors and Org Admins can view your organization's Contributor Proposals on your dashboard's Inbox tab.
Interested Mentors count How many Mentors have shown interest in mentoring a given proposal. Only OAs can see the actual Mentor display names.
Project Size The project size the Contributor indicated for their project. The size cannot be changed by the Org Admin (it wouldn’t be right for an OA to be able to make a project bigger or smaller than what the contributor proposed). The size the contributor indicates on their proposal should match the estimated amount of work in the proposal.
Select to Rank Viewable by Mentors and OAs. Only OAs can select a proposal to rank, but both can see if a proposal has chosen to go into the ranking queue for possible ranking. Ranking is now available (and closes April 27th 1800 UTC).
Proposal Disappeared?
You may have been chatting with contributors these past couple of weeks but you no longer see their proposal in the system for you to select, that is because either 1) they withdrew themselves from the program 2) they removed their proposal in favor of submitting a different one to your org or another org or 3) someone in your org moved their proposal to the ignored proposals (you can view ignored proposals and ‘un-ignore’ if you feel strongly about that proposal being considered).
Your decision about whether or not to select a contributor should be based on the proposal and your interactions with them over the past month+.
Contributor Eligibility
Contributors have registered and agreed to the Program Rules attesting that they are students or beginners to open source coding. As mentors and OAs, you are choosing a student or beginner contributor that is not only best suited for your project and organization, but who would benefit from the mentorship you are providing. An applicant that is an experienced software engineering professional is not the intended GSoC 2023 contributor. As you review the proposals and your previous interactions with interested contributors, here is the FAQ answer to what constitutes an open source beginner for reference.
Orgs can not accept contributors who are immediate family members (parent, sibling, child, spouse, or life partner) or a member of the same household (whether related or not) of any Org Admin or Mentor for your organization per the Program Rules.
Want to Mentor?
If you are interested in being a mentor for a given proposal then you can click the “Want to Mentor” button on the top right corner on the proposal’s page to help your Org Admin know that you are interested. This is particularly helpful for the Org Admins when determining how many people are excited about a proposal and how they want to rank the proposal.
We suggest projects have 2, and even 3, mentors ready to help mentor each contributor project. 1 mentor should be considered the primary mentor (responsible for evaluations, etc.) and the other 1-2 mentors should help primary mentors as much as they can and be ready to step in should the primary mentor need to take some time off for any period of time at any point in the program.
Frequently Asked Questions about Mentoring
Can I mentor multiple students?
The general advice from other mentors is, it’s best to mentor 1 contributor and focus on that contributor so you can give them your full attention, but it’s okay to be a backup mentor for a second project. Don’t spread yourself too thin or it will be a bad experience for everyone - you, the contributor, and the org.
There isn’t a rule against mentoring multiple contributors but if this is your first time mentoring we strongly recommend you mentor 1 contributor. You will see many discussions about this on the mentor list archives.
As the primary mentor, how much time will I spend mentoring a contributor?
This all depends on the project, contributor and how you both decide to structure the project coding period - will this be a standard 12 week project or something longer (up to 22 weeks) or as short as 10 weeks? Time commitments can vary.
Generally you can assume that during the community bonding period you will want to commit 5+ hours a week to help set the contributor up for success and integrate them into your community. Once coding begins, you should be prepared to spend 2.5 - 4 hours per week with the contributor reviewing their work, giving feedback, answering questions, having video chats, etc.
Quick Glossary
Proposal: A document describing the project the contributor wants to work on for your organization. It should include a timeline with clear milestones and specific deliverables.
Ranked Proposals: Org Admins will rank their org’s selected proposals to prioritize which proposals they would like to accept. If an org ranks 10 proposals they are asking Google for 10 project slots.
Project slot: Google Admins will grant each org a certain number of project “slots” based on requests, history with GSoC and their number of available mentors. The number of project slots granted to an org will translate to the top ranked proposals for that org (in order). 7 project slots means ranked slots #1 - #7 will become that org’s Contributor Projects.
Contributor Project: A selected Contributor’s Proposal that is among the org’s granted, ranked project slots.
Project Length: Project length means a 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20 or 22 week project. A project’s size (175hr or 350hr) is in no way related to the project length. A 175hr-medium size project can be 10 or up to 22 weeks in length. And likewise a 350hr-large size project can be anywhere between 10 and 22 weeks (in 2 week increments of course).
Proposals Ranked - deadline Thursday, April 27 18:00 UTC (Org Admin responsibility)
All Org Admins should read Project Selection for details.
Viewing Proposals
Mentors and Org Admins will be able to see your organization's Contributor Proposals on your dashboard's Inbox tab.
On the Proposal Details Page, you can view all the details, including the contributor's email address and the full proposal PDF. You can also indicate (to your OA) your interest in mentoring by clicking the 'Want to Mentor' button.
Ignoring Proposals
Many orgs receive dozens or even hundreds of proposals, some of those are what would be considered spammy. For example, some people will submit a proposal to 3 different orgs but it’s clear the proposal is not actually targeted to the work the org does, it’s just them submitting anything thinking it could get them accepted. Also if you find a proposal that appears to have been copied from a previous participant that would certainly be considered spammy (and you can report these to Google Admins as we remove applicants who are copying other people’s proposals, a violation of the Program Rules they agreed to. You and your community don’t want to look at those time and time again so now there is a way to ignore those proposals.
When Mentors and Org Admins are in the Manage Proposals - > Inbox on their GSoC dashboard they can go to the Selected to ignore column. When you click the ignore icon for a proposal the icon will turn red and will disappear from your screen (and from view for all of your 2023 Org Members) as it is sent to the ‘Ignored’ proposals.
The filtered view of Proposals contains 4 options in the dropdown box labeled ‘Starred’:
The Ignored Proposals should only be used for spammy proposals - not because you don’t like the project. Another mentor may like the project but if you ignore it then it is removed from the All Proposals view and the ability to be ranked from the entire org (until someone else ‘un-ignores’ the proposal which will put it back into the All Proposals view of proposals than can be selected to be Ranked by Org Admins).
Changing Project Length from Standard 12 week project
On May 3rd when Google announces the Contributor projects to the orgs, by default all projects will have the 12 week project length. At that point OAs will be able to go into the project details for each Contributor project and adjust the timeline from a minimum of 10 weeks to a maximum of 22 weeks. OAs are encouraged to have these edits wrapped up by the end of the community bonding period. We lay out all of the project deadlines for you at the top of each project - you MUST use the dates we provide, you can’t randomly make up a deadline that is not in the dates we supply.
OAs can still make timing adjustments throughout the coding period as contributors have things come up and they need to adjust their timelines, but having the general dates locked down by the start of the coding period will be a better experience for mentors and contributors.
Code of Conduct
Be sure to read the Program Rules and the Code of Conduct section for GSoC. Your org may also have an additional Code of Conduct which you should be sure to point students to as well. If you have a situation where a prospective student, mentor or org admin violates the GSoC Code of Conduct please notify me as soon as possible at [email protected].
Important Upcoming Dates
Please be sure to mark these dates in your calendar of choice.
Use this link to add the Google Summer of Code dates to your Google Calendar - remember Evaluation deadlines will vary depending on your contributor’s project length. We are only stating the midterm and final dates for the standard 12 week project in the calendar and below - if your contributor project is a different length be sure to mark your own calendar accordingly.
April 4 - 26: Review all submitted GSoC Contributor proposals with your org and consider how many you want to select and how many you can handle (how many you have committed mentors for). Decide on the ranking of your GSoC Contributor slots. At least 1 mentor must be assigned to each project before it can be selected.
April 27 18:00 UTC: Deadline to submit ranked slot requests (Org Admins enter requests)
April 27 - May 2: Google Program Admins review and assign org slots
May 3: Organizations receive notification of their accepted GSoC 2023 Contributors
May 4: Accepted GSoC 2023 GSoC Contributor projects are announced
May 4 - 28: Community Bonding Period
May 27: Deadline to notify Google Admins of an inactive GSoC Contributor that you wish to remove from the program
May 29: Coding begins
Dates for Midterms and Final Evaluations will vary depending on Project length
September 6: Initial batch of successful GSoC Contributors passing GSoC 2023 are announced
October 13-15: In person GSoC 2023 Mentor Summit (Sunnyvale, CA) Details in April
Receiving Emails from Google Program Administrators
To avoid emails from us possibly being marked as spam please add [email protected] and [email protected] as trusted contacts.
Email Archive
We have created a GSoC 2023 Mentor and Org Admin email archive where you and all mentors and org admins in this year’s program will be able to reference all of the important emails that are being sent over the next 7 months. We suggest you encourage any new mentors or org admins to review the archive when they join your org along with the Mentor Guide.
Important Links
Thank you
We appreciate your patience and feedback with these annoying UI and general webapp issues. We have vendors that build our webapp and this year we have limited resources for the webapp as we put more funds toward being able to accept as many GSoC contributors as possible for 2023 so there are a lot of things on our wish list but we have to prioritize constantly to try and get the biggest wins for y’all as possible. Thank you for your understanding.
Contact Us
If you have any questions please contact us at [email protected]
Thank you for being a part of Google Summer of Code 2023, this program could not happen without all of you!
Best,
Stephanie Taylor, Perry Burnham and Robert Spier
GSoC Program Administrators
You can find the original copy of this text in GSoC 2023 Mentor and Org Admin email archive
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