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Caster MH and 2h prices on CC are exactly double the price of the blizz season2 nerfed values (1575 vs 3150, 1875 vs 3750), which also match the top value of 3750 arena points mentioned here for gladiator weapons: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-gear-cost-tbc-season-1/977656/2
While i could not access the original "spreadsheets going around discord", this source seems to be the most accurate in terms of numbers for what the original expensive pricing was on original s1 - the total cost of 8250 for the armor set matches CC's current armor pricing precisely
Now, this source speaks of 1000 arena points for Idol/Libram/Totem/Wand/Thrown (notice, exactly double of the 500 value in the s2 source)
The cheapest gladiator weapon according to this should cost 1125 AP, which is again roughly double of the 550 cost of strictly-offhand weapons shown in s2, as well as caster offhands.
Meanwhile, CC pricing doesn't make any difference between melee 1h and offhand prices at all.
(Unfortunately this source provides no information about main hand 1h weaponry)
Another source however mentions that after s2 price changes, s2 gear had a 50% discount on the pricing https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/season-1-vs-season-2-cost/1163028
which further confirms that the original s1 values were roughly double of the cited s2 prices.
After looking through the numbers, the reason for slight mismatches is that blizzard didn't know what to do with items that cost an odd number like 1875, and simply rounded the cost down to the nearest hundred (900). This pattern can be observed on all the items that used to cost an odd number of arena points, causing these items to become relatively cheaper after the 50% cut.
I've no clue, how would you find out something like that?
All I can tell is that they clearly had trouble with the odd numbers when halving. They just rounded them down to the nearest hundred.
Originally reported on CC: chromiecraft/chromiecraft#6089
Reported by: sassouiabd
What client do you play on?
enUS
Faction
Both
Content Phase:
70
Current Behaviour
based on all gathered evidence, these are the original S1 pre-cost-nerf TBC prices vs the current CC prices:
Armor set 5/5 - 8250 (blizz) vs 8250 (cc)
Melee 2h - 3750 (blizz) vs 3750 (cc)
Caster 2h - 3750 (blizz) vs 3750 (cc)
Hunter bow - 3750 (blizz) vs 3750 (cc)
Caster MH - 3150 (blizz) vs 3150 (cc)
Melee MH/1H - 2625 (blizz) vs 1875 (cc) -- too low
Melee OH - 1125 (blizz) vs 1875 (cc) -- too high
Shields - 1875 (blizz) vs 1875 (cc)
Caster OH - 1125 (blizz) vs 1875 (cc) -- too high
Wand/Thrown/Relic - 1000 (blizz) vs 1875 (cc) -- too high
I highlighted the ones which need correction. If CC wishes to keep the prenerf s1 pricing system, these would be the correct values.
Expected Blizzlike Behaviour
All item prices should match the prenerf blizzard values.
Source
https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Season_2_Arena_rewards
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/season-1-vs-season-2-cost/1163028
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-gear-cost-tbc-season-1/977656/2
In detail:
Caster MH and 2h prices on CC are exactly double the price of the blizz season2 nerfed values (1575 vs 3150, 1875 vs 3750), which also match the top value of 3750 arena points mentioned here for gladiator weapons: https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/pvp-gear-cost-tbc-season-1/977656/2
While i could not access the original "spreadsheets going around discord", this source seems to be the most accurate in terms of numbers for what the original expensive pricing was on original s1 - the total cost of 8250 for the armor set matches CC's current armor pricing precisely
Now, this source speaks of 1000 arena points for Idol/Libram/Totem/Wand/Thrown (notice, exactly double of the 500 value in the s2 source)
The cheapest gladiator weapon according to this should cost 1125 AP, which is again roughly double of the 550 cost of strictly-offhand weapons shown in s2, as well as caster offhands.
Meanwhile, CC pricing doesn't make any difference between melee 1h and offhand prices at all.
(Unfortunately this source provides no information about main hand 1h weaponry)
Another source however mentions that after s2 price changes, s2 gear had a 50% discount on the pricing
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/season-1-vs-season-2-cost/1163028
which further confirms that the original s1 values were roughly double of the cited s2 prices.
After looking through the numbers, the reason for slight mismatches is that blizzard didn't know what to do with items that cost an odd number like 1875, and simply rounded the cost down to the nearest hundred (900). This pattern can be observed on all the items that used to cost an odd number of arena points, causing these items to become relatively cheaper after the 50% cut.
The above findings also confirm the source provided by balleny https://wowwiki-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Season_2_Arena_rewards
Steps to reproduce the problem
Go to arena point vendor and check the prices https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/npc=24392/leeni-smiley-smalls
.go c 3000034
Extra Notes
Affected items:
One hand:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28305/gladiators-pummeler
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28308/gladiators-cleaver
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28312/gladiators-shanker
Main hand:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28313/gladiators-right-ripper
Offhand:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28302/gladiators-bonecracker
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28307/gladiators-quickblade
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28309/gladiators-hacker
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28310/gladiators-shiv
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28314/gladiators-left-ripper
Thrown:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28319/gladiators-war-edge
Wand:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28320/gladiators-touch-of-defeat
Offhand:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28346/gladiators-endgame
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=32452/gladiators-reprieve
Relic:
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28356/gladiators-libram-of-justice
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=33948/gladiators-libram-of-vengeance
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28355/gladiators-idol-of-tenacity
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=28357/gladiators-totem-of-the-third-wind
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=33942/gladiators-idol-of-steadfastness
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=33945/gladiators-idol-of-resolve
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=33939/gladiators-totem-of-indomitability
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/item=33951/gladiators-totem-of-survival
AC rev. hash/commit
chromiecraft/azerothcore-wotlk@280822c
Operating system
Ubuntu 20.04
Modules
Customizations
None
Server
ChromieCraft
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