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Make grenades destroyable #47

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ghost opened this issue Jul 20, 2022 · 14 comments
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Make grenades destroyable #47

ghost opened this issue Jul 20, 2022 · 14 comments
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ghost commented Jul 20, 2022

Currently, grenades can't be countered. This is pretty OP, and I think some aliens, maybe not all, shall be able to neutralize those.

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slipher commented Jul 21, 2022

Picking up and re-throwing them would be funnier.

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ghost commented Jul 21, 2022

what about technical difficulty?

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Only the granger can rethrow nades. All other aliens don't have hands.

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ghost commented Jul 21, 2022

I don't think it shuold be reserved to granger. Devolving from adv goon to granger have a real cost (and is slow), and in comparison, throwing a nade is free and fast.

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slipher commented Jul 22, 2022

Larger forms can pick up the grenade in their mouths.

Also what part of the dragoon's body does the barb canonically come out of?

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ghost commented Jan 31, 2023

How exactly should aliens be able to neutralize the grenade?

The title of this issue says "destroyable". This means giving them some health, and being able to attack them.

As for the superior mobility, I'd say you need to prove there is such a thing. Humans run fast. Sure, aliens have some trick moves to go a bit faster, but so do humans, which even have the jetpack, are relatively small and can duck.

Maybe it could also be possible to do something like what g_dretchPunt does, too.

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Viech commented Feb 19, 2023

Summary of hidden posts: It is controversial whether a change to grenades is needed for balancing or gameplay reasons. There is no agreement that they are too strong or that (additional) means to counter them are necessary.

We can still discuss here fun ways to interact with grenades once dropped.

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Gireen commented Feb 20, 2023

i allowed me to edit the issue according to bmorels wish in the hidden comment, since it qualifies as a prime example of what an idea issue should not contain.

There is no problem attached to this so the question is only: Should grenades be destroyable by aliens for the sake of it?

In my opinion No, they are small, hard to "throw", dont do that much damage and humans have to carry them across the map.

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illwieckz commented Feb 20, 2023

My general opinion on many suggestions that are done is that we may not need more complexity. Fixing gameplay by feeding a cold war where every parts just get more and more weaponry or weaponized behaviours is maybe just making the game more complex and maybe just contributes to more elaborated camping, leaving the game with the same camping but with higher gap for newcomers.

@Viech Viech changed the title [Idea] make grenades destroyable Make grenades destroyable Apr 6, 2023
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