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T2 patchy biases #2

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jesusff opened this issue Jun 27, 2023 · 3 comments
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T2 patchy biases #2

jesusff opened this issue Jun 27, 2023 · 3 comments

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jesusff commented Jun 27, 2023

This is a patch agreed to be applied to the new EURO-CORDEX WRF simulations during the meeting on Feb 9th, 2023.

The problem is described in this WRF forum post, although it is still not clear how to fix it. Initially, it was thought to be related to a coefficient (0.02), which is suggested in the forum to be lowered to 0.002. This coefficient is now read from the MPTABLE (CBIOM), which facilitates the change and even allows for a different coefficient for different land use types.

However, a series of recent bugs detected in Noah-MP also affect this line of code, so the root of the problem is more likely on these bugs, which are related to a lack of scaling of several quantities with the vegetation fraction (FVEG). This would affect differently landuse types with deciduous vegetation, which show low vegetation fractions during summer. The T2 biases in the original WRF post have a seasonal behaviour which could be related to this lack of scaling.

jesusff added a commit to CORDEX-WRF-community/WRF that referenced this issue Jun 29, 2023
so we can incorporate bug fixes as mentioned in CORDEX-WRF-community/euro-cordex-cmip6#2
Note that NCAR/noahmp#92 is still pending
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jesusff commented Oct 19, 2023

The new CWC WRF v4.5.1.2 has now fixes for all these bugs.
CBIOM changes should not be necessary, but we might reopen the issue if T2 patches remain.

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yoselita commented Jan 19, 2024

It looks like these colds pools not disappear with all the updates in Noah-MP that are made recently. We were checking the nature of these cold pools, and it seems that they do not appear from the beginning of the simulations. The simulation starts ok, with normal values for the surface variables and 3D variables in lower layers. But, after a very cold event happens, during a nighttime, when very thin and stable PBL is formed, these cold pools appear and remain for some time. It looks like they disappear when the next cold event happens (this is something we noticed in the our CP simulations for FPS-URBAN). Furthermore, these cold pools appear in different locations, and at different times, but they are more pronounced in the warmer months.

It seems that it is necessary to change CBIOM values in MPTABLE.TBL from 0.02 to 0.002 after all. When done so, the patches disappear.

I run 2 simulations using the same restart file for 01.05.2016, and the patches are wiped out after few timesteps with CBIOM set to 0.002. I changed the CBIOM value from 0.02 to 0.002 for all the LU categories, as this cannot be linked to LU map.

Figure show an example for 01.05.2016 at 18:00, with changed CBIOM values (left) and the original ones (right):
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@yoselita yoselita reopened this Jan 19, 2024
jesusff added a commit to CORDEX-WRF-community/noahmp that referenced this issue Jan 29, 2024
This is a quick fix for cold pools seen in WRF. See CORDEX-WRF-community/euro-cordex-cmip6#2
jesusff added a commit to CORDEX-WRF-community/WRF that referenced this issue Jan 29, 2024
jesusff added a commit that referenced this issue Jan 29, 2024
This is a quick fix version for #2
jesusff added a commit to CORDEX-WRF-community/fps-urb-rcc that referenced this issue Jan 29, 2024
This is a quick fix version for
CORDEX-WRF-community/euro-cordex-cmip6#2 which
also affected CP simulations
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SiuSunChun commented Feb 5, 2024

Nice, @jesusff
It may be our interest to read this.
https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2018MS001476
Now, we have one-tenth of the canopy storage capacity, resulting in greater sensible heat.

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