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Quidli - Rewards tool for NEO #96
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Hi @Lukerio - Thanks for the proposal. Can you explain why you feel the NEO token specifically is a good choice for integration into Quidli? Do you foresee any development challenges? |
Sure @deanragnarok ! |
Hi @Lukerio - Thanks for the response. I understand why you would choose Neo as an ecosystem, but I'm more curious as to why you would choose NEO as the token to integrate? |
Hi @deanragnarok! Not sure I can say much more than what I said in the my post and response:
We can also integrate NEO + GAS within this integration work if it's easier |
@Lukerio I think what dean wanted to ask was: Why would you want to choose NEO as the token to integrate, it´s not really meant as a reward. I guess you have taken a look at the Neo blockchain a bit, right? Then you would know, that NEO is not divisible. You could make use of bNEO or GAS (just like you said) instead. My opinion about the proposal as community member: I like the engagement farming idea and rewarding systems. With the Discord bot from NNT, we already have something similar. But another one could be a good addition, maybe. What I´m interested in:
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@Lukerio - @Mrxdaunknown is correct. I'm trying to get a sense of how much you've looked into Neo as an ecosystem and a technology. As mentioned, NEO is not divisible. You also need GAS to be able to perform transactions with NEO or any other token. Further, NEO holders are entitled to claim GAS rewards, so you'd need to be set up to handle that also or users may not be able to access their funds. It was not immediately obviously to me that any of these things had been considered. Looking your GitHub I can see that you are looking at many grant programs, and that's totally fine. But you must understand we get a lot of copy / paste proposals here. Part of our job is to try and weed out those that are honestly looking to bring something to Neo and those who are just playing the numbers game. For me to have confidence Neo is not just another spray and pray for Quidli - especially if you're asking for the maximum funding amount available - I'd need to have confidence that you have some understanding of our ecosystem and tokenomics, and that you're interested in working with and growing Neo, not just plugging in another token for the sake of it. Two bits of feedback I will provide: Your ask is a bit high. We haven't had any proposals successfully collect the full 5,000 NEO, and those that have been distributed larger amounts have had much more detailed proposals or a proven history within the ecosystem. Secondly, if you'd like to revise your ask, I'd also recommend completing your first milestone and including the results of that in your proposal. It's hard for us to take a leap of faith with a project when reviewing the technical documentation is on the |
Thank you both for your answers, I appreciate! @deanragnarok @Mrxdaunknown I understand that my approach may seem a bit " opportunist ". To give you a bit more context about me: I'm on the business and partnership side. To be completely transparent, I'm not an expert or a builder, I'm mainly interested in seeing if there are any possible synergies from a community point of view.
@Mrxdaunknown Concerning our community: we're a SaaS, and we've historically had customers from the web2 world (freelance companies who share bonuses with their freelancers or employees using Quidli) who are less present on Twitter. Also, as you can see, we're a small team and I'm on my own to manage marketing, sales, customer success, sometimes legal... Unfortunately, I haven't had the time to manage community management on Twitter, which is a shame. @Mrxdaunknown Here’s some key numbers we observed in Q1 and Q2 2023 on Quidli:
The amount: I think there's an erratum concerning the amount, I'm talking about the equivalent of $5000 in NEO, or 650 NEO at the current rate. We can integrate the GAS token and FLM in addition if you like. Roadmap: We can transform these 3 milestones into 1 single milestone if that's easier for you? I hope I've answered as well as I can, and sorry again if my asked sounds too "opportunist", I've been doing my search for the community part at least and will be more careful. |
@Lukerio - Thanks for your quick response and details. I tried your app, but couldn´t find an option for telegram. I did a login via metamask, but only Discord or Slack was shown to me. Telegram would be most interesting, because crypto/WEB3 is a lot happening there. About Twitter: I was just wondering why, because I thought a lof of communities are engaged there and would at least follow quidli then. But if you had a lot of customers from web2, who are not really active on Twitter, then it´s an explanation :). About the key numbers: I´m not really into it, but I would say these are good numbers. $1,2 million transaction volume is not bad, when you take into account that users are mostly tipping cents or only a few $ at best Thanks again for answering and good luck :). |
The telegram version of Quidli is in Alpha. There are still a few bugs, but the product should be live by the end of the month :) For on-ramp/off-ramp, the amounts are explained by web2 companies which on-ramp more than web3 orgs, on the other hand, internal transactions (send) are more frequent for web3 companies (on small amounts) make the transaction volume go up. Let me know if you have any further questions and if you'd like to move forward @deanragnarok . Best, |
Hi, Any status updates regarding our proposal @deanragnarok @Mrxdaunknown ? That would help better organize next steps on my side, |
Hey @Lukerio, as mentioned before, I´m just a normal community member = not a member of GrantShares. That being said, if you think someone would endorse your proposal, you could put it on-chain. Just like I did with my proposal "World of Elements". However, I gave them a month to comment about my proposal. |
I like Quidli's bot, it is fantastic. However, I have a doubt about the budget. I am not convinced that the last milestone should close 2500 Neo as it is more than 15,000 USD now (and will be worth more). |
Hi @steven1227, Thanks for your reply! As mentionned in my previous comment, there's been an error in the amount: we're asking for 422 NEO (the equivalent of $3,000 today) in order to integrate the various NEO ecosystem tokens (NEO, GAS, and all the ecosystem tokens). |
Hi @steven1227, Would the update pricing works for you? |
@Lukerio You should be able to modify your proposal via the GrantShares website to fix the budget. |
@Lukerio Yes! You can use the "Edit" feature on your proposal page. Just make sure you're connected to your GitHub Account, and then you'll see the "Edit Proposal" button on the right-hand side. |
🚨 This proposal was edited by the proposer. |
@EdgeDLT : I've been able to edit on the Grantshares website, thanks! |
I'll try to summarize the benefits of Quidli for Neo here:
@Lukerio, Is that a fair summary for Quidli? Besides that: How easy is it to get the GAS/NEO out of Quidli? Is it Quidli's goal to keep users on their app? |
You did a great summary @csmuller! I would add that we create automated rewards flow using our "bounties", you can see an example here: https://docs.quid.li/gettingstarted/product-overview/features/create-reward-flows Regarding your question, you have the possibility to "lock-up" the crypto you send to members, so that they will not be able to withdraw. Otherwise, users can withdraw their tokens from at any time. However, as we're currently subsidizing the majority of network fees imposed, we do require a minimum fiat value amount of $20 USD at the time of withdrawal. |
It's a bit of a pity that users are not able to withdraw rewarded tokens to their own wallets below $20 USD. The use case of onboarding a user onto a Neo wallet via a small GAS reward is lost by that. But, maybe you will change that in the future. In the case of GAS you could easily use a small part of the users newly won GAS to pay for the transaction into their wallet. From reading the FAQ, I assume that Quidli does not handle all transactions on-chain. Is it correct that only when I withdraw tokens they actually get transacted from "your" on-chain account to an "outside" one? |
As mentioned above, as we currently subsidize the majority of the network fees charged, we require a minimum of $20 in cash at the time of withdrawal. Quidli is currently hosted in order to provide a user experience that is streamlined, accessible and scalable for the long-term. And although we take a custodial approach today, we are working towards greater decentralization and non-custody while already working with community manager at top web3 organizations who are more focused on growing their communities efficiently rather than using the latest dapp for work that doesn’t immediately require decentralization |
Deal!
I have no objections to that approach 👍 |
Hi @csmuller , Do you have any updates regarding our proposal? We'd be super interesting to deep dive and integrate all the NEO tokens within our ecosystem. |
Please put it on-chain. We will endorse. I think it's worth the requested amount. |
Hey @Lukerio, we at AxLabs took the time to carefully consider your proposal. Even though it's a great proposal, with good scope and obvious value, we will not endorse it for now. Other DAO Members are free to endorse, if they feel like it, no problem. The reason is mostly the overlap with the GasBot project, which offers a similar solution. Anyway, feel free to further discuss and/or other DAO Members to consider an endorsement if they feel so. |
Abstract
What would you like to do? Describe your project/idea in a few sentences.
Quidli is a micro on-ramp connecting Web 2.0 apps and web3 assets for you to embed crypto rewards and incentives into your collaboration workflows to boost participation and motivation. We enables you to recognize your top contributors natively in your Slack and or Discord, and is mainly used today by community managers who want to leverage community engagement on social media. Quidli users include the community teams NEAR Foundation, ETHDenver, OrangeDAO, iExec, Tezos, and Solana Foundation.
Description
The overall and broad proposal description.
We propose to you to build a light integration of NEO Blockchain to Quidli by adding NEO to our API and hosted app environment. This will enable you to seamlessly distribute NEO tokens as rewards to the top active participants in your community directly in your Slack or Discord.
In addition to helping you internally share NEO tokens within your ecosystem, this integration lets us offer NEO to our user base of 1000+ organizations as an option via Quidli’s open token platform.
Once completed, NEO token will be available as an option on:
Quidli web app
Quidli Slack app
Quidli Discord app
Any subsequent integrations built by Quidli
Motivation
Why are you requesting funding? Is there anything that triggered your interest and would like to share with us? Through this initial partnership, we’d like to help NEO to build an awesome community and ecosystem by enabling you to effectively boost community engagement using token incentives. Sharing more tokens with community members can help you to establish a positive alignment flywheel leading to more contributions and ultimately growth towards your main mission and objectives.
Quidli can also help NEO increase number of new holders: Quidli is used by 1100+ organizations today, and we experienced >$3m in transaction volume over past 12 months. Our platform has a majority of Web2 companies, in particular freelance companies (for example: Flexiple) which use Quidli as a means of payment and rewards for their freelancers (bonus, % of salary). We also work with web3 incubators (Consensus, dlab) who use Quidli on their internal slack server to encourage the founders and start-ups in their portfolio to create a community spirit.
Goals
What are the main goals, and why?
How would you bring value to the community?
Our values proposition for NEO:
• Increase community engagement and retain your top contributors, make them feel they are the most valuable asset by rewarding them and recognize their work.
• Rely on community members referrals as your first source of acquisition and rewards them for their contribution.
• Use Quidli metrics in order to better understand how to build a better community on Discord.
Today there are 700+ organizations using Quidli, with the majority not having/using their own token. Once your token is available on Quidli, it will be available as an option to these teams. We believe this integration can boost your token visibility to new holders. Actually, we already have a couple of our current users interested in using it as micro-incentive rewards within their community.
Deliverables & Roadmap
1st Milestone: 1 week
We review the necessary technical documentation (blockchain, smart contracts, token, etc.). If additional docs and or consultation is needed, we’ll contact you to get connected with the appropriate person/team for guidance.
Budget: 0%
2nd Milestone: 2 weeks
Integration should be in place, and we start testing to ensure the new token is functional and usable within our environment. FYI, we will ask you to send some NEO in order to perform these initial tests.
Budget: 50% (175 NEO)
3rd Milestone: 1 week
Review the integration with the NEO team.
Create & publish PR announcing NEO on Quidli as well as this initial partnership.
Budget: 50% (175 NEO)
-> Total duration: 4 weeks
-> Total budget: 350
Deliverables Verifiability
1st Milestone - Measurement of success to release payment: Green light from our devs team to move to the token integration step.
2nd Milestone - Measurement of success to release payment: Successfully integrated NEO into Quidli’s micro on-ramp environment.
3rd Milestone - Measurement of success to release payment: Validation of the deliverable by the NEO grant team.
Budget Plan
About You / Your Organization
Quidli
https://quid.li/
https://github.com/quidli
Short-Bio
Our mission is to offer a composable and user-friendly tool for organizations to use, share and access crypto/web3 as micro-rewards with little-to-no friction.
Portfolio of Projects / Past Experience
There's no problem if you don't have vast past experience or a portfolio. We just want to hear more about what you've done or have been doing.
Our team:
Justin Ahn - CEO
Previous experience: Helped launch high-growth e-commerce ventures in Southeast Asia, notably ZALORA & LAZADA Vietnam as EiR @ Rocket Internet
LinkedIn profile link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahnjustin/
Role: Justin is the project coordinator
Guillaume Figielski - CTO
Previous experience: As blockchain engineer (incl. Solidity), launched ChainImpact, one of the first blockchain dev studios in France. Senior full-stack developer @ French multinationals including Airbus, Orange, and Peugeot.
LinkedIn profile link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/guillaume-figielski/
Role: Guillaume oversees token integration and product management
Luke Vignal - Head of Business Dev
Previous experience: Account Manager @zendesk, Ex-Forrester
LinkedIn profile link: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luke-vignal/
Role: Will be in charge of the partnership coordination and marketing efforts
Titus Decali - UX Designer
Role: Titus will be in charge of the front-end development
Luis Marquez - Back End Dev
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lmarqueze/
Role: Luis will be in charge of the Back-end development
Proposal Info 📋
Proposal Type:
request-for-funding
Amount Requested:
350
Token:
0xef4073a0f2b305a38ec4050e4d3d28bc40ea63f5
(NEO
)Receiver Address:
NY4gSJiuSbRKrhkQxVWYUuVYcLeDY841YU
(0xfd2e688d8f764b1bf0d5b3cbec51690287454785
)Created by: @Lukerio 🚀
Linked Proposal:
https://grantshares.io/app/details/589f76250bf798e6a97648d1c3f501be
Raw Intents: 👀
👇 React with 👍 if you liked it, or 👎 if you think this proposal can be enhanced!
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